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Map Additions

Post by Andrew Revering » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:37 pm

Until now the precipitation accumulations for NAM were quite haphazard. 06z and 18z runs would show precip accumulation for every 3 hours. The 12z and 00z accumulations would be 3 hour, 6 hour, 9 hour or 12 hour accumulations and unless you understood it deeply, it would be near impossible to figure out how much precip you would have. This is the way the model data comes off of the government servers.

I have modified all of this and done the math in the background to make the precipitation ALWAYS 3 hour accumulation for NAM. I did this since our maps are every 3 hours, you can see what the intensity is on a forecast by forecast basis. I also made it easy to see what the totals are by adding a new total accumulation map for both snow and rain, as described below.

In addition to these changes, I've modified the following maps:

NAM/RUC APRWX Snow
- 3 hour accumulation for NAM
- 1 hour or 3 hour accumulation for RUC
- Greatly increased accuracy of forecasts by utilizing better snow to ratio calculations and our newly modified precipitation type algorithms.

NAM 6/12hr Precipitation
- Now is always 3 hour accumulation

The following maps were added:

APRWX Precip Type
- This utilizes a lot of upper air logic to identify the locations of where the rain will switch over to a mixed precipitation and where the mixed precipitation will change over to snow. This map shows simply 2 lines. The line with value 0 (northern line) will be the Snow/Mix line and the line with a value 1 (southern line) will be the Mix/Rain line. Areas south of this line will be rain, between the two lines will have mixed precip (sleet, freezing rain, graupel, periodic snow switching to rain or vice versa, etc.), and areas north of the northernmost line will be all snow.

Total Precip Accumulation
- This map adds up all the precipitation from the previous x hours to give you a total accumulation up to the forecast period you've selected, from 00 hour to your forecast hour. For example the 24 hour forecast is the last 24 hour's precipitation. The 84 hour forecast is the last 84 hours of precipitation.

Total Snow Accumulation
- Same as described above, but for snow.

To make sure you have access to these maps you must do the following:

1) Download the latest 'productlist' file.
Right Click and Save Link As... http://www.f5data.com/productlist.csv
Save to the F5/cache directory. Typically the path is: C:\Program Files\F5\cache
2) Right click and save the following files in the same manner to the
C:\Program Files\F5\settings\map_options path.
- http://www.f5data.com/ptype.ini
- http://www.f5data.com/totalprecip.ini
- http://www.f5data.com/aprwxtotalsnow.ini
I also recommend you replace this file which edits a map title properly:
- http://www.f5data.com/sfc_precip.ini
2) Open F5 and go to Preferences/Checklist setup.
3) Select the checklist you want to add the new maps to.
4) Under Map Name find the map you wish to add. The new maps are named:
- APRWX Precip Type
- Total Accumulated Precip*
- APRWX Total Accum Snow
*If the program locks up when trying to do this, follow the instructions in this thead
http://www.aprweather.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=871
to paste the line: totalprecip
into the proper checklist.

5) After selecting the map from the drop down, be sure to check the box to it's right titled "Include this with Checklist"
6) X out of this options window and your changes should show up in your checklist to view the maps.

If you would like to re-order the items in your checklists, see this thread:
http://www.aprweather.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=871
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Post by Bob Hartig » Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:59 am

The new maps seem to be working just fine, and I see that you've also improved the overall speed of downloads. That's great! Thanks again, Andy, for your excellent service. It's one of the consistent earmarks of F5.

Here's hoping your Christmas is happy and blessed.
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Post by Matt Haworth » Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:50 pm

Yeah, the new maps work great! Keep up the awesome work!
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Post by Andrew Revering » Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:57 pm

Thanks guys.

FYI I plan on releasing the official final release around Valentine's Day.
The software will have a completely different look, and all features included that I've been promising.
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Post by Aaron McKnight » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:30 pm

Ok, followed the instructions, but I am still getting locked up with the totalprecip when I try to add it into my checklists. I went into the all maps and added a line that says totalprecip. I added the same into winter as well. When I go back in, I try to add Total Precipitation in, and it locks up the same way as before I added it in. Any help is appreciated. I am running Vista, so I don't know if that is an issue or not.
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Post by Andrew Revering » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:34 pm

Well first I'm impressed you got it to run on Vista. If you had problems and you had to do any tricks to get Vista to play nice, I'd appreciate hearing about that as well.

Regarding the lock ups... if you added the line in the text file for totalprecip, it should be in those select checklists. If your lockup is when you try to go to the preferences for total precip to change the color settings, that lock up is going to be expected and right now there is no fix for that, unless you were to just go into the totalprecip.ini file and start deleting some of the color settings. That may allow you to edit the file to your liking. But the instructions were intended to get you as far as to be able to view a checklist, find total precip in the list and check it to plot the map.

The next release will address these issues in a more user friendly way.
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Post by Aaron McKnight » Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:16 pm

Maybe that is where I am running into the issue. Obviously, I am new at this program.

As far as Vista is concerned, I am running a copy of Home Premium upgrade. It installed without issue and works great. I didn't really have to do anything with it. The biggest change I have made in Vista is to disable the UAC because it is annoying, and has no business being in a home copy of Windows. Its just stupid, and bothers you all the time when you try to install anything new. The only other thing I have done is disable the sidebar, because I don't care about it, and all it does is suck up RAM and some processor power. What a waste.
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Post by Andrew Revering » Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:29 pm

Well this whole mapping issue is definitely a design flaw on my part. This stuff should be designed so there are no errors and its intuitive to get a map upgrade, so I appreciate your patience with it.

At this point until I can redesign the precip map color scale situation, I hope that you can at least view the map. Modifying it is a challenge.
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Post by Steve Miller » Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:04 pm

Will the Feb release be vista friendly upon download? It's time to upgrade the chase laptop and Vista will be the OS.
Looking forward to it! If you need a beta tester, let me know.
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Post by Andrew Revering » Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:44 am

I can't promise anything more with Vista than what we have now. Vista has been a mystery from day 1, and I'm afraid we're no closer to figuring out that mystery.

I have some instructions that are suppose to be the fix on the main forum page, however people still occasionally say they have problems while others say it fixed it. I don't know if it's a matter of people not following the directions close enough, or if there is something else we're missing.

My own opinion of Vista outside of the compatability with our software is be very cautious. I had it on my personal PC for about 6 months and went back to XP Pro. In my opinion there is no reason to "upgrade" to Vista because it seemed like a severe downgrade to me. The only thing that was nice about it was it had some more eye candy with a couple things it did graphically on its desktop (which is just processor intensive and pointless), and when you were looking for a file and double clicked one, if you click the back button it would go back to the point in the file list that you just clicked, rather than to the beginning of the list. That was useful, but hardly worth the cost to upgrade.

Whatever your decision we'll support the software on Vista to the best of our ability. But as of now I cannot guarantee a seamless integration, although I'm pretty sure *most* of our Vista customers have been able to work out their bugs and run it on Vista ok.

Regarding the precip interval bug... I'm excited to say that is already fixed in the new development version.
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